Learning to Counter Strike
Sinister , Sep 6, Since I started the thread let me share a couple particular things I have been taught over the years. As a tall striker make friends with the uppercut. Have a few different ways that you throw it. Its not always a KO blow. Sometimes its just to pop his head up for other strikes or to just get him defending. You have your normal upper cut. You can throw it like an uppercutting slap wich sets you up for your left hook.
You can also send it from far out to check range 2. Lead leg kick in muay thai. FOr me its left but either way, you have to be able to lift that leg up, without a switch, and dig it right into his body when he lunges in for a combo. A lot of times he will be targeting your left leg as its the closest thing to him. This is a good way to keep distance, frustrate him and do some damage. Keej , Sep 6, Aug 25, Messages: Lock this thread, I don't want any of this information getting out.
Midnighter , Sep 6, Aug 8, Messages: Thanks for starting this thread DaGenius! It is pure genius. But seriously and I know you are not being completely serious how many times are you going to have this much height advantage outside of sparring people at your gym?
One of the best fighters at my gym is like 5'6" and 50 lbs less than me. I stay with him pretty well when sparring but if I was at his weight he'd probably kill me. Thank god I'm a taller. In a sanctioned fight I doubt you'll have much more than 2" on anyone unless you are Joe Schilling and can fight at when you are 6'2". Feb 10, Messages: Sep 26, Messages: For me it's fitness - making sure i've got the speed and energy to keep moving and maintaining my advantage - and having an effective jab.
Even if i'm not landing clean shots, i'm always pawing fowards and keeping the opponent guessing. Often i've found that the only way a shorter fighter can get in is by taking big lunging swings. And slipping to the side and countering these can be very effective in catching him off balance. McPunchy , Sep 6, Sep 15, Messages: Set the pace with jabs and straights. Uppercuts and hooks for aggressive head movement and pressure fighters. Front kicks are essential. Taller guys need this to establish distance.
I love them and use them all the time. Coming from a karate background, more conventional guys from just muay thai don't use side kicks much, snd I find it effective in establishing distance, dealing with pressure fighters.
I love the jab spinning back kick combo. I usually either start by throwing thai style round kicks to the leg, mixed in with karate style front kicks to the mid section. Then I throw a punching combo followed by a karate knee chambered style wheel kick round kick to the head.
If my opponent is skilled to see it or defend it, I will work outward crescent kicks or even axe kicks to the head, set up off of the low thai kicks and punching combos. The most important lesson I learned for fighting skilled shorter opponents, especially pressure fighters in a stand up striking scenario was to have great footwork and leg endurance so I could keep moving and reestablishing my fighting position, tying up the shorter guy once he did penetrate inwards and I felt vulnerable, or even pushing him back out into a range I felt comfortable with.
Taller guys must sit down on their punches. Apple Pie , Sep 6, Apr 13, Messages: Jan 3, Messages: Can't emphasize the importance of body work enough. I agree with baconcrunch that being tall is overrated; I know some short guys who can out-range and out-angle me at times and the height advantage is often neutralized. This is important because it increases the edge of range, which in effect mitigates part of their speed advantage which is usually the case.
This is also useful for entrances: Body work also helps to integrate level changes into your game, which are important for any fighter regardless of height. And of course the obvious benefit of body work is that it sucks energy. This is a good thing against a guy who is most likely faster than you are. Jul 14, Messages: Hendo89 , Sep 6, Jan 6, Messages: Sugar Ray Robinson used his jab well to keep distance. DaGenius , Sep 7, Dec 19, Messages: In this order, what I have found to be the most helpful in using my height and reach.
Below, we get a glimpse into this world as our friend, Khru Cade Anderson, shares his thoughts on the subject. Observing the thought process of a taller person, you can see how the standard, conventional theory of moving forward, pressing the fight and trying to cut off the ring is accounted for by a taller fighter who is properly trained and prepared.
Simply marching towards your opponent in this case will only get you hit as your opponent will simply time your attack and strike during your bridge step as this is the essence of reach advantage tactics to stay out of the range of the shorter fighter and to attack them as they step forward to bridge the gap.
Bull dog that bean pole and force your way inside. As counter intuitive as it may sound, sometimes the best thing to do against a taller fighter with good ranging and good timing, is to step back and wait. When he steps forward to punch, you can counter with a kick so long as you step on the If he kicks, you can catch his leg and punish him with a sweep, dump, flurry of punches or pull his leg to bring him into the close range clinch.
In this article we hope you find some helpful tips on how to safely bridge the gap. We have presented some sound, and basic methods of how to wage a range war on those with a reach or height advantage.
And for our members, we have shown, in detail, some rare tricks that will get you out of a jam, when these solid fundamentals fail to mitigate the extra inches your opponents bring to the fight. Is it a matter of being faithful to the traditional Thai style, or are there disadvantages to that technique?
All your striking videos seem to emphasize stepping out at a 45 heavily. Hey Seb, I think especially in the short versus tall theme stepping out at an angle is pretty much a necessity as it creates the angles for attack, gets you closer to your opponent and this in turn will allow further penetration for your strikes.
I remember reading that Sugar Ray Robinson trained in a very small sized boxing ring so he would get better at working on his angles.
Why does your gym frown upon it? It would be interesting to hear what your coach thinks on the subject. In my studies, it has not been uncommon to hear two completely opposite view points from very highly respected and experienced instructors.
Why someone suggests you do one thing as opposed to another is perhaps just as important as what they suggest you do. If you have two opposing ideas and the reasonings for adopting one over the other are explained from both sides, you should be able to determine which way is more consistent with your body type, personality and belief system.
Thanks for the responses! The logic is that someone that can kick immediately can also kick after stepping if the situation calls for it, but the reverse is not always true. It also seems that some newer fighters compensate for a lack of hip power and form by stepping out wide, which is a bad habit.
Seb — That makes sense.